We Have to Show Our ID Anyway

US citizens must show their ID for many reasons, why should people in this country illegally be exempt?

We Have to Show Our ID Anyway

We Have to Show Our ID Anyway

My 90 year old grandma has sent along a thought provoking email regarding the controversial issue of personal identification and your legal or illegal right to be in America. The email asks this question, “What is the big deal about showing your ID?”

I don’t know who the original author is, but they do indeed bring up a valid viewpoint.

I’m a legal American citizen and I must show my ID when:

1. I am pulled over by the police.
2. I make purchases on my department store, gasoline or any other credit card.
3. When I show up for a doctor’s appointment.
4. When filling out a credit card or loan application.
5. When applying for or renewing a driver’s license or passport.
6. When applying for any kind of insurance.
7. When filling out college or employment applications.
8. When I donate blood.
9. When obtaining certain prescription drugs and some over the counter mediacations.
10. When making purchases by check (especially if I’m out of state).
11. When collecting a boarding pass for airline or train travel.
12. When purchasing beer, liquor or any tobacco product.

I’m sure there are more instances, but the point is that we citizens of the USA are required to prove who we are nearly every day!

Why should people in this country illegally be exempt?”

4 Comments

  1. publisher_sa

    Besides completely missing the point of the need for Immigration Overhaul instead of loading additional often dangerous enforcement issues on a rapidly diminishing police force, grandma assumes that there is such a thing as an American citizen ID. Besides a passport there is no ID that qualifies you as a US citizens or alien resident. Actually alien residents may have a green card.
    Driver's licenses in the US have unfortunately become so abused from its original intent of showing that you are licensed to operate a vehicle, that many people are starting to question if it is in reality an ID. If you would force my hand I could tell you some stories about abusing driver's licenses and how easy it is to manufacture fake ones. Take a trip to the courthouse in July when a session is called and learn how many true blood Americans don't have driver's licenses because they are revoked or pulled for many other reasons that operating a vehicle and then wonder if the Driver's License should be used as a National ID!!. Immigration reform would include a national Identity Card.

  2. publisher_sa

    Besides completely missing the point of the need for Immigration Overhaul instead of loading additional often dangerous enforcement issues on a rapidly diminishing police force, grandma assumes that there is such a thing as an American citizen ID. Besides a passport there is no ID that qualifies you as a US citizens or alien resident. Actually alien residents may have a green card.
    Driver's licenses in the US have unfortunately become so abused from its original intent of showing that you are licensed to operate a vehicle, that many people are starting to question if it is in reality an ID. If you would force my hand I could tell you some stories about abusing driver's licenses and how easy it is to manufacture fake ones. Take a trip to the courthouse in July when a session is called and learn how many true blood Americans don't have driver's licenses because they are revoked or pulled for many other reasons that operating a vehicle and then wonder if the Driver's License should be used as a National ID!!. Immigration reform would include a national Identity Card.

  3. Miffedone

    With the exception of #1, all the rest of things you do *voluntarily*. If you choose not to, you don't have to show your ID. (Indeed, for many of them you don't either, like using a credit card, but why pick a nit?)

    But the Constitution is about protecting individuals from harassment by government. When that government puts into law requirements that people – of a certain persuasion – be stopped and asked to prove they are citizens, that qualifies as harassment, in my view.

    Your first example, when you are pulled over, falls on the other side of the “*unreasonable* search and seizure. That is not unreasonable, because the law officer has observed you doing something he adjudges illegal. (You can protest and take it to court, if you like.) But simply stopping people FOR NO REASON is a grotesque violation of that clause, and frankly is not different than making one religion wear a yellow star, or pulling over blacks at speedtraps while letting whites through, or any other activity which is – per se – discriminatory.

    Yes, there's a problem. Asking government to ignore the very protection in the Constitution (which specifically mentions “individuals”, not necessarily “citizens”) is the wrong way to go about it.

  4. publisher_sa

    In reply to Miffedone: Very well put and especially clarifying on the topic of the Constitution protecting individuals against government abuse. Absolutely agree with each point you make. Thanks.

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